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Refuting "Truther" Nonsense



 http://hnn.us/blogs/comments/51190.html
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Cross-posted on his website
 
https://blog.independent.org/2008/06/08/debunking-truther-nonsense/


HNN Liberty and Power [pseudonym], Sunday, June 8, 2008 - 20:30

Andrew D. Todd

 a_d_todd@rowboats-sd-ca.com 

http://rowboats-sd-ca.com/



(My Response)
(06/10/2008 03:13 PM)


Truthers As Primitive Rebels.

Truthers tend to maintain an uneconomical hypothesis. They insist that the World Trade Center was prepared for demolition, even though  airliners flying into the buildings were a sufficient cause for them to collapse, and the airliners' flight was witnessed by thousands of people.  This means that the Truthers get caught up in arguing with obviously  qualified engineering  opinion.

 I think it is useful to think of Truthers as primitive rebels, in  Eric Hobsbawm's sense of the term, that is,  people who want to  put the  clock back to an idealized past. Airport security is the largest intersection between the  national security state and the average  citizen. It is not as intrusive as the process of getting a government security clearance, of course, but that applies  only to a minority of the population.  Since 9/11, airport security has not been run  according to actual risk analysis (see the writings of Bruce Schnier), but as  "security theater." That is, it has  been used as a kind of device of forced indoctrination. This gives the Truthers a kind of counter-investment in insisting that an airliner could not possibly be a flying bomb. Here's  where the primitive rebel aspect comes in. The Truthers do not start promoting high-speed electric trains, which are much more inherently safe, and don't use oil, besides. Instead, they keep trying to put the clock back.

Economical Trutherism would assert that Mohammad Atta was really a Cuban-American Special Forces sergeant named Gonzales or Hernandez or whatever, and that the CIA had murdered the actual Mohammad Atta in order to borrow his identity. Economical Trutherism would further assert that  this "Manchurian Candidate" was given a floppy disk to put in the airplane's computer; that he expected the  disk to cause the airplane to fly to a secret base ("Area 51") and land  there; but that his double-crossing bosses had actually programmed the disk to take over the airplane's controls, computer  virus fashion, and cause  it to fly into the World  Trade Center instead. This scenario is loosely drawn, in technologically updated form, from the plot of an old James Bond  novel [and movie], Ian Fleming's _Thunderball_, a proven media success.  That  kind of argument would be much harder to refute.

The Truthers would be better advised to look at the Anthrax Attacks, which might legitimately be called "Anthraxgate." The basic undisputed facts are that the anthrax in question came from a government laboratory,  and that the intended targets were the  president's political opponents and critics. Further, it is more or less self-evident to any reasonable person, though not  of course to the official FBI investigators,  that the  purpose was to secure the passage of the USA Patriot Act.

 All but one of the  persons killed were random innocent  bystanders, because  the perpetrators were so incompetent that they couldn't even aim properly.   Bob Stevens, the sub-editor at the  National Enquirer, was an intended target, apparently for lese-majestie in publishing scandal about the president's daughters. The combination of recklessness, dishonesty, and incompetence found in the  Anthrax Attacks  is utterly characteristic of the Bush  II administration.

Probably,  millions of people were frightened, and their anger, properly fanned, might be very much to be feared.  However, Anthraxgate does not appeal to the  "primitive rebel" mentality of the Truthers. Like everyone else, they like e-mail just fine, and don't feel any compulsion to go back to snailmail. The fact that snailmail letters to congressmen get routinely sent through a zapping machine is of no political consequence-- on the contrary, the congressmen all decided to start accepting e-mail. How can  you hang nostalgia on an institution with such an undignified name as snailmail?



Re: America's Three Million Muslims: Who Are They?

08/29/2002 09:09 AM

To: Rick Shenkman, History New Network

Re:
http://hnn.us/articles/927.html
America's Three Million Muslims: Who Are They?

In the vein of Crevecour, let me tell you a story: I know of a
couple of young people, a brother and a sister. Their mother's
mother was a Russian Jewess.  Their mother's father was a Crimean
Tartar. Their father's father was a Muslim Arab from the Lebanon.
I'm not sure about their father's mother's exact ethnicity. Their
half-sister's father was an American Appalachian. Daniel Pipes'
ethnic identity politics are basically irrelevant. Ethnic
identity politics are only for those at the very bottom of
society whom no one wants to associate with. As groups establish
themselves, they marry outward.
    If we're going to talk about terrorist organizations, let's
talk about the Jewish Defense League. Let's also talk about the
sender or senders of the anthrax letters, who, on the available
evidence, were almost certainly top-secret employees of the
United States government, attempting to organize a pogrom against
the Arab-Americans, at the same time that they enabled the
president to rule by decree. It's the same basic formula that
Herr Hitler used in 1933- state terror doesn't change very much
over the years.  Anthraxgate is still as obscure as Watergate was
in late 1972, and I doubt the investigation will get anywhere
until a special prosecutor is appointed, one who does not work
for the president.

                                 Andrew D. Todd


Why Profiling Is Necessary (If Its Done Right)-- as applied to the anthrax attack

01/03/2004 03:40 AM

RE: Why Profiling Is Necessary (If Its Done Right) By Daniel Pipes
     http://hnn.us/articles/2741.html

     Bill Heuisler's comment:

    (formerly http://hnn.us/comments/27572.html)
https://web.archive.org/web/20050101122620/http://hnn.us/comments/27572.html

in:

https://web.archive.org/web/20041204054844/http://hnn.us/articles/2741.html


There is a man named Ed Lake, who has gone into the anthrax attacks in enormous depth:

// make this into a fotnote

[To research the anthrax attacks, the starting  point is Ed Lake's _The Anthrax Cases_. Lake has done the legwork of assembling a substantial clippings file, available  on-line.
 
https://web.archive.org/web/20080523210802/http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/
[
formerly http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/

The original URL now points to a domain mart. Given that Lake was collecting enormous libraries of press clipping, and thus preventing the authorities from changing their story from one day to the next, Newspeak/Ministry-of-Truth fashion. Of course, the copyright laws being what the were, he was always fighting take-down notices.
]

Lake's website is in effect the evolving first draft of a book. You don't have to agree with Lake's conclusions, of course,  but it is worthwhile reading his dossiers (literally hundreds of items). One of  Lake's most important ideas is that there were two parties, the anthrax supplier and the  anthrax mailer.  One implication is that the supplier need not  have known or consented to the actual mailing of the anthrax. He  may well have thought it was for something else. In consequence, you don't have to postulate the supplier being a foaming-at-the-mouth type. He can be someone sane enough to allowed to work in a government bio-weapons establishment. For example, the supplier can be a "good soldier" who automatically assumes that when the president asks for weaponized anthrax, it is for an at least quasi-legitimate purpose, such as taking out Saddam  Hussein.  It is a matter of current dispute whether the anthrax was actually "weaponized" at Ft. Detrick. Ed Lake thinks not. However, I am inclined to agree with Gary Matsumoto that it was. This would account for why the most extravagant possible search has not turned up a clandestine laboratory. It also has the "occam's razor" advantage of not  postulating two microbiologists engaged in dubious pursuits when one will suffice.

The anthrax mailer is a different story. What little we know of him is that he committed an act of intentional terrorism on American soil, and that he probably did not have  the scientific knowledge to appreciate some of the implications of what he was doing (eg. genetic fingerprinting, danger of mass casualties). When he tried to fake a  message from supposed arabs, he was not the kind of person who could unobtrusively  get  himself a translation of the Koran, and quote some authentic fire and brimstone--  instead he used Hollywood doggerel. I am no arabist, but a rummage through my library turned up a dozen or so books on the general subject, including Marmaduke Pickthall's translation of the Koran. The average high school library would probably have yielded as much. So the picture of  the mailer which emerges is of someone of marginal literacy. That is a very odd sort of person for a highly qualified scientist to know. Scientists naturally associate mostly with other scientists, or with other academics.  However, the mailer is compatible with the kinds of professional criminals whom G. Gordon Liddy and Oliver North recruited for their escapades.

What I think happened is that someone from the White House came to Fort Detrick immediately after September 11, and said, in effect, "The President wants to give Saddam Hussein a birthday present," or words to that effect. If the weapons scientists had scruples, the envoy probably said: "Well, the alternative is to nuke Baghdad... I was hoping you could help..."

He knew that Fort Detrick is immensely jealous of the nuclear weapons program, which seems to get all the funding and all the glory. You can't protect yourself against a nuclear weapon by putting on a rubber suit. Ditto for a cluster bomb. So bioweapons aren't really very effective against soldiers. Now, here was Fort Detrick's  chance if they wanted it. The weapons scientists agreed. Once they had done so, there was no turning back. Now the envoy was all business. When could they have the anthrax ready? The afternoon of Sept. 15? Good! Now, could they provide a set of written directions for putting the anthrax into an envelope? The weapons scientists would naturally understand that they did not have "need-to-know" for the envelope's address. Finally, the envoy arranged for them to hand over the materials to a "Mr..Smith" at a convenient gas station somewhere.

At this stage, the envoy may very well have been speaking the truth about his intentions. Congress and the news media were still shocked into complete passivity. By the time the anthrax was delivered however, conditions were changing. Somewhere along the line, the attack got diverted.    Most of the targets of the first mailing were important liberal media outlets. American Media is a bit of an anomaly. However, if His Nibs was ranting about the National Enquirer stories in such a way that half the west wing could hear him, it is easy to see how someone composing a little list (he's got a little list/ they will  none of them be missed) might add the name on  the spur of the moment.  The second attack was directed at two democratic senators   who were delaying  the  USA Patriot act. The  FBI is of  course an  institutional beneficiary of this act. This does not mean that the FBI participated, but it does mean that their  collective judgment may be a bit addled, and they may have difficulty facing certain facts.

The conspiracy was probably organized so that no more than five or ten people needed to know about its component parts before the fact, and probably no more than ten or twenty after the fact. It was probably the work of an overly ambitious aide, operating  in the tradition of G. Gordon Liddy and Oliver North. High officials probably did not engage in the actual planning, though, confronted with a fait accompli, they may very well have engaged in obstruction of justice afterward.

The obvious and elementary way to crack the conspiracy open is to work out who at Fort Detrick knew whom in the administration, and when they met, and what they talked about. Interview both parties, to provide a check  At a certain point, someone will be trapped in a lie, or possibly the administration will suddenly declare something to be secret and covered by executive privilege, and then, the fun and games will start.  But the FBI is afraid to follow up the obvious and elementary thing.

However, one of the things we learned from Watergate and Contragate is that one bagman is apt to hold many bags, to make a specialty of being a bagman. A  special  prosecutor has been appointed for the Valerie Plame affair, and his investigations may very well  put him on the trail of Anthraxgate.


HNN post, re: John W. Dean , Did Bush Decide to Talk to Outside Counsel Because He's in Legal Hot Water over the Plame Leak?

06/10/2004 02:59 AM

RE: http://hnn.us/articles/5525.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20050205201909/http://hnn.us/articles/5525.html
Let  us add another possibility-- the anthrax attacks.

1. By genetic fingerprinting, the anthrax used in the anthrax attacks has been traced back to an army weapons laboratory. The FBI's response has been to seek a "mad scientist" among the handful  of trusted men with security clearances who had access to the right kind of anthrax. These efforts, carried to extravagant lengths, have ultimately yielded-- nothing. The alternative hypothesis is a "good soldier" -- many of the "persons of interests" will be regular army majors and colonels-- who might have obeyed orders from constituted authority and not asked questions.

2. The anthrax attacks occurred in two waves. The first wave was directed at liberal news media, and at a publisher of supermarket scandal sheets, whose sole excursion into the political was to commit lese majestie by publishing scandal about the president's daughter. The second wave  was directed at congress, and more precisely at two Democratic senators who were engaged in delaying and obstructing the  passage of the USA Patriot Act. The USA Patriot Act was passed in the false belief that the anthrax attack had been launched by Arabs. The targets were, in short, the political opponents of George W. Bush, and the apparent motive was to intimidate them into silence. Only one of the victims, Bob Stevens at American Media, the scandal sheet publisher, can be said to have been an intended target. The other victims were  innocent bystanders, mostly postal workers.

3. Most of the above facts were known by the summer of 2002. And there the matter has rested for two years. In that time, the administration has demonstrated its propensities. Well, then, can anyone show me evidence of such high  ethical standards, or even of such good judgment and common sense,  as would refute the possibility of an Anthraxgate? J'Accuse!



[in response to Patrick Meade's comment (June 11, 2004 at 4:40 PM) that "...it must have been a rougue element..., I replied (06/12/2004 12:03 AM) that:]


It depends what you mean by a rogue element. Technically, Oliver North was a rogue element. But all kinds of people dealt with North on the assumption that they were dealing with the United States government. As the saying went, "What did Reagan know, and when did he forget it." As an incident of his operations, North turned _Soldier of Fortune_ magazine into a hiring hall for mercenaries, and because he valued secrecy (or plausible deniability) more than responsibility, it also became a hiring hall for contract killers. SOF became a shopping mart for husbands who wanted to trade their wives in on new models without paying alimony-- a la Henry VIII. Reagan never intended to go into the commercial ladykilling business-- it was simply an unavoidable consequence of his desire that the Sandinista regime should vanish, Boland Amendment or no Boland Amendment. The best evidence is  that he expressed this desire in  fairly general terms: "who will rid me of this turbulent priest," or words to that effect.

During Watergate, G. Gordon Liddy proposed firebombing the Brookings Institute. He had the minimal good sense to run the idea past John Mitchell and John Dean before actually doing it, but suppose he had been a little bit more of a "self-starter." Firebugs sometimes become mass-murderers by inadvertence.

The natural foci of government insanity are the men who work in small offices in the basement of the West Wing of the  White House, men of the Liddy-North type. Such men combine ambition and a precarious hold on effective power in an extraordinary degree. However, experience has shown that once these men do whatever they do, their superiors, presented with a fait accompli, often find a cover-up the lesser of two evils, in the mistaken belief that the cover-up will stay covered up. At law, that is called being an  accessory after the fact. Someone will have had to tell John Ashcroft  why  he had to rein in his gumshoes, and only someone rather senior could tell  him that. Probably not the president, probably the  other one.

In terms of timetables, the decision to launch the first wave of anthrax attacks has to have taken place within two or three days after September 11, most probably on September 12. At that time, it seemed possible that further attacks were impending.  There was a widespread belief that September 11 had rendered constitutional government obsolete, that the  president was going to rule by decree under emergency powers for many years.  One has to reckon that a given official displayed, say, ten times his normal insanity during that time window.

My economical hypothesis is that orders were  issued for an anthrax attack against Saddam Hussein, and that the attack was somehow diverted. On a need-to-know basis, Fort Detrick would not have to be told that the attack was going to be in the United States. If people at Fort Detrick had known about the targets, they would have worried about things like genetic fingerprinting, cross contamination, etc. which would be generally  irrelevant if the target were in Baghdad. That is why someone at Fort Detrick handed over one or more vials of powdered anthrax of a type which could be rapidly traced back to Fort Detrick, and a set of written directions for putting it into envelopes.  That way, Fort Detrick was out of the picture by the time the first wave of attacks started arriving, and was not in a position to refuse assistance to the second wave.

The "sorcerer's apprentice" quality of the anthrax attacks _is_ characteristic of the Bush White House. The Administration  has a demonstrated propensity for ignoring or overriding expert advice, with disastrous consequences.



HNN Post, Jeffrey Crouch, A Pardon for Libby?

01/19/2009 11:29 AM

http://hnn.us/articles/59967.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20230622065032/http://hnn.us/articles/59967.html


Scooter Libby and The Duchess of Malfi

Last night, I was rereading  John Webster's  _The Duchess of Malfi_ (1612[1623]), a play about the archetypal political operative, which seems eminently relevant  to the whole question of Scooter Libby. The title character of   _The Duchess of Malfi_ is not very interesting, merely an innocent woman who winds up being garroted for being in the  wrong place at the wrong time. The  play, however, is really about the anti-hero, the professional assassin Daniel Bosola. Bosola keeps doing  contract killings. In a kind of weird naivety, he keeps  being  surprised that his employers, once the deed is done, do not want to  honor him, but merely want to  be rid of  him, by whatever means necessary. He eventually "wises up," and "takes out" his  employers in a towering revenge. This is not so much a revenge at them for anything they have actually done,  but a revenge  at fate for having made him the kind of man he is.

Bosola would have been entirely at home working for the Bush administration. We still don't have the identity  of the White House official who gave the order for the Anthrax Attacks, under whose direction Bruce Ivins at Fort Detrick manufactured and weaponized anthrax. Libby fits the profile for this unknown official, of course, and has been widely accused. Many people believe that this is the explanation for why Libby's sentence was commuted. You realize, of course, that all of this will have to be investigated by the  Obama Administration... and that everything will come out in the end. A Libby pardon might very well be taken as a confession of the outgoing President's guilt  in the  Anthrax Attacks.

Libby's usefulness to his employers would seem to  be at an end. I wonder what he  will do if he should not get a pardon.

http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext00/malfi10.txt

The Duchess of Malfi, by John Webster

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/2232/pg2232-images.html

The Project Gutenberg eBook of Plays by Webster and Tourneur [and Middleton], by John Webster, Cyril Tourneur, Thomas Middleton.

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/55625/pg55625-images.html
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05/26/2009 05:04 AM

SPIKED
HNN post, David R. Carlin, Thinking of Dick Cheney as Cicero

http://hnn.us/articles/86349.html

When I reflect on the mentality of the persistent  advocates of torture, I  have a number of things to say, mostly unprintable--  but I find that  I cannot say them better than they have already been said by the old soldiers:

http://hnn.us/readcomment.php?id=115391&bheaders=1#115391

Raw thread: 

http://web.archive.org/web/20071214201128/http://www.intel-dump.com/posts/1194363263.shtml

Some further comments along the same lines:

http://buggieboy.blogspot.com/2009/05/is-noose-tightening.html

Dick Cheney  is a terrorist. There is no reasonable alternative  to the hypothesis that  he  was at least the moral or vicarious  author of the  Anthrax Attacks, whichever of his minions actually gave the order. The actual proof, in legal terms, is about as difficult to achieve as  actual proof of Herr Hitler's involvement  in  the  Reichstag Fire, given the extent to which the  official police agencies collaborated. Of course, there is an increasingly widespread popular belief, held by perhaps a third of the population, that  Dick Cheney  was also the author of 9-11 itself.  In either  case,  the Iraq war was simply an effort to cover  his tracks, and the  increasingly desperate search for  further plots, or weapons of mass destruction,  was simply more of the same.


Techdirt Post, FBI Director Says Congress Will Fix Phone Encryption 'Problem;' Congress Says 'Bite Us'

10/23/2014 05:51 PM

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20141022/12062628910/fbi-director-says-congress-will-fix-phone-encryption-problem-congress-says-bite-us.shtml

Let's Remember the Anthrax

There is reason to suspect that the FBI played a part in the Anthrax Attacks, back in 2001. Certain elements in Congress were stalling over the passage of the USA Patriot Act, which was simply the FBI's perennial wish-list. So these delaying elements began receiving, ah, bouquets, of anthrax, and the bill was rapidly passed. In the following months, it gradually became apparent that the anthrax had come from the United States Government, and yet, no one drew the obvious inference. Unable to deny that the anthrax had come from the the United States Army laboratories at Ft. Detrick, the government went to great, and even extraordinary, lengths to frame a man named Steven Hatfill. Hatfill was more of a "policy wonk" than a working scientist, and attempts to incriminate him tended to founder on his lack of opportunity to gain access to the right kind of anthrax.  Retroactively, it became apparent that the framing of Hatfill was done to protect Bruce Ivins. Ivins does not seem to have had any kind of political connections of a sort likely to involve him in a armed attack on Congress, yet the evidence of his having provided the anthrax in question is overwhelming. Ivins eventually went more or less insane, doubtless due to guilt at what he had done, and committed suicide when the investigation eventually swung back in his direction.

Some years ago, a man named Ed Lake formulated the hypothesis that there were two parties, the "Supplier" (a government scientist with inside access, who provided the anthrax), and the "Agent," someone outside the government research establishment, who received the anthrax and used it. Ivins was the supplier, it seems. The Supplier-Agent hypothesis explains why Ivins became involved in drastic political terrorist actions which were out of character for him. Forget the FBI's silly suggestions about a persecution complex directed at a college sorority. Ivins handed over the anthrax, because someone gave him the right order, and probably did not tell him what was going to be done with the anthrax. The FBI is a prime suspect for having provided the Agent. It was very convenient for the FBI that Ivins committed suicide. He might otherwise have made a full confession in court, and named the agent. Ivins was a tormented man whom the government had tricked, Ender-Wiggins-fashion, into being a mass-murderer.

Now, key portions of  the USA Patriot Act are being nullified by advances in technology, notably in encryption and address cloaking. "The murderers among us" are being forced out into the open to defend their ill-gotten gains.

James Comey, himself, was a senior official in the Bush Administration's Justice Department at the time that much of the anthrax investigation was taking place. He is not obviously unimplicated. At present, he is probably "carrying water" for FBI insiders who committed various crimes in the aftermath of Sept. 11, 2001. He must be made to testify before Congress about what he knew, and when he knew it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Comey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hatfill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Ivins








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