(My Responses)
(08/02/2004 08:57 PM)
Don't Lose Sight of Ultimate Purposes
Grades perform at least four different functions that I can think
of:
1. Sending signals, getting students to work, etc.
2. Deciding who is to be rusticated.
3. Deciding who is to go to a cognate professional school
(eg. law school).
4. Deciding who is to going to enter the discipline.
These are very different purposes, and they do need separate
grading systems. The latter two are reasonably addressed by
external examinations. There is nothing wrong with external
examinations per se. One can reasonably critique the GRE for being
a multiple choice examination which does not require the candidate
to actually write things or perform mathematical
calculations, etc. One can call for an external examination to be
made more authoritative, after the manner of the old University of
London external degree.
It is an error to compare grade averages between disciplines, and
say, "we've got more or less grade inflation than you do."
For example, you note that at your institution, the
art, music and dance programs have comparatively high GPA's.
Practically speaking, it is impossible to get into an art or music
school without already being an artist or musician. They
have auditions, look at portfolios, etc. Generally speaking,
the vast majority of classes are closed to nonmajors, because they
would not be able to keep up, and the art and music schools have
no real tradition of participating in general education. For all
practical purposes, a BFA is a graduate degree, at about the same
level as a liberal arts ABD. A MFA is comparable
in scope to a Ph.D. The requirement is quite simply to
produce an exhibition, that is, a series of related
paintings.
Now let's take Mathematics departments. Two thirds of the
classes (sections) a typical Mathematics department
teaches are, by it's own reckoning, not of
college level, ie. below Calculus. There is
usually a slow Calculus course for business and
biology students, and a regular Calculus course. Only about ten
percent of the total classes are above Calculus level (which is to
say, above the level covered by the college board advanced
placement exams). Perhaps five percent might be upper
division/graduate. The vast majority of Mathematics classes
contain students who have a history of failing Mathematics, and
are resigned to failing yet again. Mathematics departments
commonly have initial placement examinations, to separate out the
sheep from the goats. In terms of prerequisites and class
scheduling, someone who was obliged to start in a
sub-Calculus course would find it extremely difficult to meet the
requirements for a Mathematics or hard science degree within four
years. The placement exam, conducted before any classes, is thus
the key exam. It practically closes off the the hard science
fields to those who are not either well prepared in high
school, or exceptionally determined. Physics departments are
practically identical to Mathematics departments in this respect,
given the close linkage between the two disciplines.
An A in College Algebra would translate as approximately:
"What on earth are _you_ doing in this bonehead class with all
these meatheads. Come and talk to me so we can get you transferred
somewhere suitable." There is an alternative translation which
runs: "We both know you are competent to teach this class,
but the idiotic regulations require you to take it, so why
don't you just come in for the final exam and skip
everything else." One such case known to me was that of a
mathematician who decided he wanted to teach Mathematics to small
children, and was therefore required to take an even more
boneheaded form of College Algebra known as Mathematics for
Elementary School Teachers.
Both of these cases are so overwhelmingly different from
History that comparison is meaningless.
[In response to a sarcarcastic query:
]
(08/04/2004 04:10 AM)
How do I know what
Mathematics instructors think? How do historians know anything?
Put in some time on the Notices of the American Mathematical
Society, and form your own conclusions. Broadly speaking, the
limiting factor on Mathematics education is the availability of
people who both know Mathematics and are willing to teach young
children. There is an ongoing issue of the unqualified high school
math teacher who is afraid of Mathematics, and projects her fear
onto the students. It's rather a catch-22 situation. That means
that there are limits to the extent to which you can simply order
everyone to be better prepared.
(8/7/2004)
Wagoner, Jennings L., Jr., Honor and Dishonor at Mr. Jefferson's
University: the Antebellum Years, History of Education Quarterly,
26(2):155-179, Summer 1986
[Dresner retrieved a copy of the article, and seemed annoyed that
i had suggested he read it.]
(08/12/2004 05:48 AM)
I'm sorry you didn't
get much from the Waggoner article. I was originally
trained as an anthropologist before I became a historian, and
perhaps that enabled me to see what he was getting at. It
helps to have read Bertram Wyatt-Brown as well, Waggoner only
touches briefly on the "primal honor" discussion. You have to be
careful not to uncritically impose your own values on an alien
society.
The way the social system was set up in the Old
South, the vast majority of students had what they wanted once
they had been to the University of Virginia, even for a short
period of time. The whole point of going to the University
of Virginia was to become known to the members of the southern
elite (see p. 170). The situation was very much the same at
Oxford or Cambridge, of course, or Eton and Harrow, for that
matter. Being sent down for a spectacular prank was as good as
graduating. If the prank was stylish and original enough, it
would be widely remembered. What would have really
hurt would have been to simply refuse admission in the
first place.
In the Ancien Regime, of which the Old South
was an offshoot, the basis of wealth and power was property,
either in the form of land or slaves. Someone who went to the
University of Virginia had to have property in the first place, of
course (a handful of grinds and scholarship boys excepted, of
course). However, if a planter had gone there,
it meant that twenty years later, one of the southern
grandees might remember him, and the planter would then be able to
gain power by mediating on behalf of his neighbors. The
other side of the coin was that it was very bad to be seen to
submit to insult. That would be the behavior of a shopkeeper.
It would result in shunning, or ostracism.
Parenthetically, I can think of a boy at
my old prep school, thirty years ago, whom I remember not for any
positive achievement, but for "streaking," ie. running nude
in a public place with the intent of creating a disturbance. He
was at pains to take twenty dollars worth of bets in advance,
which, in terms of schoolboy economics and the subsequent
inflation, was a meaningful sum. I don't say that I admire Wayne
____., but if I had a job in my gift, probably of a military
character, which required audacity and steady nerve, I might very
well prefer him above another man of whom I knew nothing.
There is much less chance that he will panic halfway through, and
forget the good reasons for doing whatever it is that he has
to do. In wartime, there is sometimes a need for such men. (*)
Your students, on the other hand, live in what one
might call the Government Sinecure State. The way the civil
service regulations are set up, a person with some kind of
bachelors degree will have preference for jobs such as welfare
caseworker or probation officer, the sort of job that _you_ would
never want, but it beats working on an assembly line. Next
preference goes to the people with a year or so of college.
According to the material in a civil service test tutor book
I consulted, a college class lasting fifty minutes is credited
approximately equally to an hour and a half working at McDonald s.
This doesn't seem particularly just, but there it is.
The result is a type of student who looks for gut courses. It is
simply a question of where their vested interests lie. Flunking a
student in the year 2004 may have many of the same implications as
caning a student in the year 1840.
Returning to the Ancien Regime, I suppose
the future Duke of Wellington could have been said to have flunked
out of Eton, circa 1780, not in the sense of failing grades, but
in the sense of being removed in disgrace. He was a shy little boy
who hid from the school bullies in the shrubbery. When word
got back to Wellington's elder brother and guardian, the elder
brother angrily removed him, and shipped him off to an inexpensive
provincial school in France, the sort of place no one had ever
heard of. Wellington was very happy there. The headmaster's
wife was one of those exquisitely civilized Frenchwomen, in
the tradition of the salon hostesses. It was a good place to
grow up, but his contemporaries were not the kind of men who would
be able to pull strings for him in later life. As it
turned out, Wellington was not the kind of mediocre man who needed
string-pulling. Interestingly, Napoleon was attending
an approximately similar school at about the same time.
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Ref: Elizabeth Longford, Wellington, The Years of the Sword.
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(*)
Reading Own Johnson's _Stover at Yale_ (1912),
one finds an approximately similar system. Before a football game,
the coach tells 'Dink' Stover that they have no chance of
winning:
[reprint 1968, Collier Books, New York]
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"'Stover, Look here,' said Tompkins abruptly, 'I'm going to speak
straight to you, because I think you'll keep your mouth
shut. We're in a desperate condition here, and you know it.
There's only one man in charge at Yale, now and always, and
that's the captain. That's our system, and we stand or fall by it;
and in order that we can follow him four times out of five to
victory, we've sometimes got to shut our eyes and follow him down
to defeat. Do you get me?... No matter what happens, no criticism
of the captain-- no talking outside. You may think he's
wrong, you may know he's wrong, but you've got to grin
and bear it. That's all. Remember-- keep a closed mouth.'"
(p. 81-82, ch. 8)
"'Dink, we're in for a licking... that's a great
Princeton team,' said Tompkins quietly, 'and we're a
weak Yale one. We're going to get well licked. Now, boy, I'm
telling you this because I think you're the stuff to stand
it; because you'll play better for knowing what's up to
you.'"
(p. 93-94, ch 9)
"'Now, boys, its over. We've lost. It's our turn; we've got to
stand it. One thing I want you to remember when you go out of
here. Yale teams take their medicine. '"
(p. 113, ch10)
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(08/13/2004 02:46 AM)
I do not use the word
"sinecure" lightly.
A relative used to be a probation officer, about twenty years ago.
She went to great efforts to get people to go straight, and had
the odd success. This should have made her a stand-out in her
department. She was about the only person there who really
had a vocation, and meaningful alternatives. However, unknowingly,
she was at cross purposes with the effective program. The
effective program was to increase the number of prisoners in the
United States from about 400,000 to about two millions, and
use them as a captive industrial labor force. The state
introduced a system of questionnaires and quotas to prevent
probation officers from tempering justice with mercy, and she was
eventually forced out. Her experience was analogous to that of Tom
Murton, the semi-notorious reform prison warden. Toward the end,
there was a disagreement about whether the probation officers
should carry guns. My relative hated the idea. She thought of
herself as a social worker. However, the "new class" loved the
idea, because it made them almost like cops.
Bill Clinton brought the same approach to
"ending welfare as we know it." Under this sort of regime, a
caseworker who cares very much will be driven up the wall in
fairly short order. If you want to get the desperate mother
of small children away from a brutal husband, the first thing you
have to do is to find her a place to live, and the money to
pay for it. However, the caseworker's most basic job is to
discourage applicants from applying. That sort of job
becomes attractive only for someone who is willing to cultivate a
contemptuous attitude toward the clients. The Social Security
system runs on a presumption of eligibility. That is, it assumes
that a sixty-nine-year-old beneficiary is the best judge of his
potential employability. If the same principle were applied
to the mothers of small children, we would have Swedish-style
family allowances, and, unless the scope of benefits were to be
radically expanded, the welfare bureaucracy would become
substantially inoperative. What we actually have is a system
designed to coerce welfare mothers to take minimum-wage jobs
mopping floors, or to put up with domestic abuse. The result is
that the bureaucracy requires bureaucrats with a certain lack of
moral fastidiousness.
About a year ago, the state of New Jersey tried to outsource
welfare administration to India. Welfare administration, in the
new regime, works out to calling prospective employers up, and
asking if they have jobs open, rather than taking the
applicant's word that she could not find a job. This can be done
equally well from Bombay as from Trenton. The welfare
caseworkers protested noisily, and the scheme was halted.
Outsourcing was only possible because the welfare caseworkers had
already allowed themselves to be maneuvered into dereliction of
duty. Someone in Bombay cannot do a very good job of having a
heart-to-heart talk with a thirteen-year-old Newark slum girl
about her boyfriend. This "new class" of bureaucrats to manage the
poor, in both its penal and welfare divisions, recruited from
precisely those college students you most dislike, is in effect
the same old slaveholder class in a new shape. That is why I think
the experience of the University of Virginia _is_ applicable.
By comparison, schoolteachers are a long
way up the peck-order, being allowed to do good instead of harm,
and elementary schools do not have to take anyone who walks in the
door. Education schools have rigorized their curricula, not with
classroom courses, but with very large chunks of practice
teaching. The best way to find out if a student is any good is to
see how she interacts with real live children. In our education
school (West Virginia University), the practice teaching component
of the elementary education program is now up to about a
year.
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