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Everyone Watches Soccer/Cricket/Rugby Union, Except (Of Course) the Americans: Some Reflections




 http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/28048.html (now) https://historynewsnetwork.org/blog/28048



HNN [pseudonym], Jul 12, 2006

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(07/12/2006 05:07 PM)

Sports and Urban Geography

I have some comments on your citation practice, for  which see below. 

I don't know if you have read Brendan Behan's _Borstal Boy_ (1958) .  He has some interesting observations about the  relationship between Soccer and Rugby. Behan was born into the urban working class, a Dubliner,  and became a member of the IRA as a teenager. In 1939, at the age of sixteen, he was sent to England as a terrorist. He promptly got caught, and,  being underage,  was  sentenced to a Borstal School. He wound up serving his time at an "open" Borstal, Hollesley  Bay, on the Suffolk coast, with a bunch of boys who were mostly in for  minor theft, and a few "HMP" cases. This was short for  "His Majesty's Pleasure,"  or preventative detention, ie. boys, who had killed someone under provocation, typically their girlfriends in fits of jealousy. An authentic teenage gangster would have gone to a "closed" Borstal instead. In sending Behan to an open Borstal, the British government tacitly conceded his claim to be a Prisoner of  War.  In the 1930's, the IRA was openly running youth programs in Ireland, on much the same basis as the Boy Scouts. Behan was both literate, and an apprentice house painter-- in short, he was conspicuously distinct from a career criminal.  There was considerable reason for everyone to believe that Behan was effectively in the service of the Irish government, or a faction thereof,  and  that England's remedy was ultimately to resolve its differences with Dublin. The prison doctor said to Behan, "I suppose this is all jolly good for your election manifesto when you want to enter  the Irish Parliament, but it's damm' well not fair to me, wasting my time." (p. 144)  The general ethos of Hollesley Bay was pretty  much that of a boarding school, except that the  boys did  agricultural and construction work, instead of cramming latin. There is no question which the average boy would prefer. The staff organized a rugby team, which played against a British Army  team.  Rugby was part of a more or less conscious plan of re-ruralizing kids, similar to Father Flanagan and Boys' Town.

At home in Dublin,  Behan had played soccer. As he put it, soccer  "... is the game of the streets, where the ball is kept low and does not break many windows, and you are not often brought down on the hard asphalt." (p. 323)  This, of course, assumed that the street  would be essentially empty, because there were few automobiles at this date.  Effectively, the logic of Dublin soccer was the same as that of Harlem basketball, with the  sole difference that America has a lot more automobiles than Europe did. Both are exercises  in inventing a game which  will fit into the minimal open spaces of urban proletarian housing. Under American conditions, the "found space" was likely to be a vacant lot, thirty feed wide, surrounded by blank walls, where a rowhouse  had once stood.

Parenthetically, I ran across a British illustration, circa 1830, showing a recognizable game of proto-basketball played in England's Newgate Prison, in a huge, more or less barnlike barracks room.

American football, as James A. Michener noted in his _Sports in  America_ (1976),  was associated with underground coal mining and steel mill towns. The places where boys played football with sufficient seriousness to get college athletic scholarships were places where the achievable good job, deep underground, was as dangerous as combat. Now, of course, most of the  underground  mines are  gone, and the pattern  is different. American coal towns tend to have a lot of open spaces, suitable for  playing American football, unlike, say, Welsh coal towns.

The classic proletarian  spectator sports vary from country to country, but they have certain common characteristics. One of the most important characteristics is that the sport is  not a game-- on the contrary, it is a Darwinian struggle for escape from the conditions of the players' birth. As Michener  notes,  the odds are about  50,000 to one against the player achieving any kind of  long-term success, even while sacrificing his chance to get an education. The highest form of spectator sport is the gladiatorial games, and there is a tendency for spectator sports to  devolve into gladiatorial games, driven by the logic that if a player is sufficiently injured, he will not be able to  play, and will therefore lose by default. Look at Pat Conroy's novel _The Great  Santini_ for a good exposition of this logic.

In the United States, soccer is an amateur game, precisely because it is not  played professionally, and it would be fairly difficult and expensive to import a "mercenary" into a game played by fifteen-year-olds. The point is,  you don't want to play with people whose rational calculation involves putting someone in the hospital to improve the odds, or who routinely  have criminal associates. Michener discusses this kind of thing extensively, especially as applied to American Little  League baseball. _Sports In America_ is the single "must read" book about sports in general.  By contrast to things like football, American soccer is the modern feminist little girl's game, par excellence, displacing ballet lessons. 

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Notes:

In the first place, TinyURL's just do not work very well. Especially in the case of newspaper articles, the URL's are notoriously unstable, and it is important to cite things by the numbers. With cut-and-paste, this is  no more difficult than spell-checking.

Now, I take it that you are referring to the following four  articles:
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David Steele, "After years of rejecting its pitch, I'm on soccer's side," _Baltimore Sun_, Originally published Jul 10, 2006

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bal-sp.steele10jul10,0,5923543.column?coll=bal-sports-columnists

[Sudha Shenoy replied that she meant: Robert Loiederman, 'American optimism explains refusal to embrace soccer', op-ed in the Baltimore Sun, 8 June 2006]
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Jonathan V. Last, "Foul!: Why, despite everything, America will never embrace soccer," _Weekly Standard_, 06/22/2006 12:00:00 AM

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/360zlcro.asp

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Frank Cannon & Richard Lessner, "Nil, Nil: The nihilism of soccer: The more you look, the less there is to see,"  _Weekly Standard_, 06/23/2006 12:00:00 AM

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/384qgmke.asp

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Tim Swanson, "Separation of Sport and State," Ludwig Von Mises Institute, Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006.

http://www.mises.org/story/2233

[Sudha Shenoy replied that she meant: Michael levin, 'Capitalism & American Sport'.]
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[She further cited: Neil Tranter, Sport, Economy, and Society in Britain 1750-1914 (Cambridge UP 1998) ]
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Another interesting article is:

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Steve Sailer, "One World Cup: Soccer gives American elites the chance to celebrate nationalism in other countries but not ours,"  _The American Conservative_, July 17, 2006 Issue

http://www.amconmag.com/2006/2006_07_17/article.html
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Which touches on the professional/amateur distinction.
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Brendan Behan, _Borstal Boy_, 1958, pbk. ed. Berkley Windhover, 1975

(07/13/2006 11:27 AM)

Well, personally, I think you're being very Old Etonian about it! There seems to be abundant evidence that all these games, and all their possible variations, were commonly played from time-immemorial, long before they were supposedly invented. What happened in  the nineteenth century was that schoolmasters came along and wrote  up rulebooks, probably in an effort to separate the rambunctious play of boys from actual fighting, and further, that university faculty adopted these games as part of an effort to turn undergraduates back from young-men-about-town into schoolboys. 

I think one might add a technological factor. Organized team sports of this general type emerged at just about the time that the steam engine (in the form of the railroad) began to pose a threat to the horse. The classic upper-class sports were horse sports-- racing of course, but also fox-hunting, pig-sticking, and polo (a comparatively recent Indian import). One might perhaps make use of V. G. Kiernan's arguments about pistols, swords, and dueling. On a stagecoach, it was at  least possible to ride on the top of the coach, and fraternize with the driver, and maybe even drive the coach under his supervision. A train was different. It was an obviously much faster way to go a considerable distance, but it boxed the traveler firmly into the identity of passenger. I suppose one could read Jules Verne's _Around the World in Eighty Days_ as a failed attempt to cast machine travel in a heroic vein. When one strips away the contrived accidents, the horrible truth is revealed-- all one  had to do was to buy a ticket, and one would get there as fast as possible. It was in this mental climate that people suddenly started formulating  leagues and world championships for games  previously played by little boys and peasants, and not taken very seriously. 

When I was a kid in Texas, circa 1970,  there was a kind of  free-form rugby that we used to  play, called  "quarterback smear," with no scoring, and no fixed teams, just scrum for the sake of scrum.  It  seems to have subsequently become known as "smear the queer." One would guess that this renaming is a way of deliberately making it socially unacceptable, probably with a view to fencing out the school teacher.  The business of scorekeeping  is essentially an adult introduction, with no relationship to the child's sense of time. When you find a scorekeeper, that is a sign that the game has been diverted from its inner essence to adult  purposes. The question is, which adult purposes? 

James Michener summed up his critique of commercialized sports, in his analysis of the Soap Box Derby scandal: "The evil always begins with adults who desperately want to win championships which were denied to them when they were boys. They use children, often not their own, to achieve this dream, and in doing so, pervert the normal experiences of youth."  (Michener, Sports in  America, p. 153, pbk. ed.) Discuss.

(07/14/2006 04:03 PM)

On A Lighter Note

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/13/zidane_headbutt_outrage/

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HNN Post, Diana Cwerenz, Soccer — An American Sport?

(07/05/2010 12:11 PM)

http://www.hnn.us/articles/128604.html

(now)

https://historynewsnetwork.org/articles/128604.html

You  May be Confusing  Soccer With  Football.

There was a discussion along these lines in Liberty and  Power four years ago, based on a post by the late Sudha Shenoy, the Von-Mise-ian economist,  "Everyone Watches Soccer/Cricket/Rugby Union, Except (Of Course) the Americans: Some Reflections."

[See above]

Soccer, and Rugby, and American Football are all more or less co-extensive in origin. They are different rulebooks imposed on the same sport, with  certain tactics prohibited. For that matter, basketball is a well-known variation of football. If you need to play football in a small space, the simplest  way to slow players down is to make the  goal more compact,  so that it is not feasible for players to run  out and around each other.  Similarly,  you  make various rules about  the extent to which players are allowed to  fight  with each other.  Primal Football existed from time immemorial, but Formalized Football  (Soccer, Rugby, American Football, etc.) cannot be said to be any  older than the rulebooks.  American Football took its definitive shape with the  outlawing of the "flying  wedge." The flying  wedge was outlawed, circa 1900, because  it  was too dangerous, and too many players were getting killed.

I think the man you are  thinking in relation to the Onieda team  would be Gerrit Smith Miller, not Gerrit Miller Smith. Gerrit Smith (1797 – 1874) was a social reformer, anti-slavery  activist, women's rights and temperance activist. In those days, the causes were  all related. His daughter, Elizabeth, born 1822, married Charles Dudley Miller in 1843. Their son, Gerrit Smith Miller (1845-1937, named for his grandfather),  was sixteen in 1862, when he organized a game of some kind at Harvard, and was apparently waiting  to be old enough to go off to the Civil War-- the real big game. He eventually went home to his grandfather's estate to  breed cattle, and carry on  the family social causes. His son,  Gerrit Smith Miller, Jr. (1869 - 1956) was a zoologist.

In 1962, the  rules of the game were probably  not  very strictly defined  because it was still a comparatively amateur game.  No one thought  it was remotely as important as being at Shiloh  or Gettysburg.

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Gerrit Smith Miller:

This is apparently the source you read, and a bit mangled:

http://www.soccerhall.com/history/us_soccer_history.htm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrit_Smith

http://wesclark.com/rrr/yank_fb.html

http://www.nyhistory.com/gerritsmith/esm.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrit_Smith_Miller

http://rmc.library.cornell.edu/ead/htmldocs/RMM03700.html
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http://www.soccerballworld.com/Oldestball.htm

http://homepages.sover.net/~spectrum/oneidas.html

http://www.celebrateboston.com/first/football-club.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/08/09/travel/l-black-history-843992.html

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http://www.the-game.org/history-flyingwedge.htm

http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/JSH/JSH1993/JSH2001/jsh2001f.pdf



Techdirt Post, Paris Olympic Committee To Consider eSports For 2024

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https://www.techdirt.com/2017/08/11/paris-olympic-committee-to-consider-esports-2024/#comment-676189

The Olympics' First Encounter With the Machine.

When the Olympics were restarted in 1896, with significant changes to about 1920, decisions had to be made about new sports. Unlike classical antiquity, it was now normal for people to augment their strength by horse-power or machine power. For sports to be meaningful, some kinds of limits had to be set. The Olympics excluded motor-sports. Automobiles were the leading "high-tech" of the time, but they were excluded. The organizers allowed four fairly uncontroversial post-classical sports (sailing, archery, fencing, and bicycling), and two conspicuous innovations. One innovation was horses, the other was firearms. But no room was made for motor-sport.

There had been chariot races in the old Olympics, but they had been notoriously corrupt, and they had tended to produce criminal organizations. The Ancient Roman Blue and Green racing factions were roughly the equivalent of Mafia families. The new Olympic horse events were dressage, cross country, and jumping, that is, the amateur styles of riding. The regular type of horse-racing, in a circle, with paid jockeys, was excluded, and so was the racing of horse-drawn carriages. There was a tradition of the early-nineteenth-century upper classes racing light carriages with teams of horses, over the public roads. However, this tradition was linked to gambling, and specifically to "deep play," that is, people gambling for larger sums than they could afford to lose. Europe was still rural enough in 1896 that lots of middle-class people had horses. There was however, a distinction between the kind of riding which involved owning one horse, versus that which involved owning ten or a hundred horses. Precision riding, the type favored by the Olympic committee, involved teaching one horse to do things he didn't think he could do. Read Anne McCaffrey's _The Lady_ (1987) for an understanding of this kind of riding. In England, there was a volunteer cavalry militia, known as the Yeomanry, in which the privates were expected to provide their own horses. In the first instance, it consisted of farmer's sons, with the horses they used around the farm, but upwardly mobile shopkeepers were sending their sons to riding stables to become "horsey." There was this whole pattern of horsemanship which was, in effect, a branch of the Boy Scouts, about being "A Soldier of the Queen."

Olympic shooting sports were based around the air-rifle and the twenty-two caliber round. In large sections of Europe, air rifles are used for target shooting sports. This reflects gun control,  restrictions on hunting, and of course, greater population density. Even rabbits are protected game in Europe, and the ordinary man in the street cannot plead a need to hunt. There were competing forces in society. The Army, getting ready for the First World War, generally wanted every young man to be taught to shoot. Landowners were concerned about poaching. Factory owners were concerned about worker rebellion. etc. etc. Recreational shooting was channeled into a type of gun which had minimal military or crime potential, but which would provide a base for teaching the use of military rifles when the time came. The pattern of European school or recreational club sports was reflected in the Olympics.

The twenty-two caliber round, the next step up from the air-rifle,  is essentially a rabbit-hunting round. The Wikipedia entry for 50 meter pistol refers to indoor range shooting with a Flobert pistol. Circa 1900, Flobert guns were notorious for cheapness. As the 1900 Sears catalog said "We do not recommend or guarantee these 22-cal Flobert rifles. Buy a good rifle-- it will pay in the end." The price for a Flobert Rifle was about two gold dollars, say a hundred dollars in modern money, and the price of a single-shot 22-cal Remington was about five gold dollars, or two hundred and fifty dollars in modern money. Sear's attitude over a range of goods seemed to be that they would sell you cheap and dirty stuff, but they wanted to make sure you knew what you were getting into.

Upper-class shooting sports took two major forms. One was shooting birds with shotguns, shooting huge numbers of birds, far above modern bag limits, which were driven towards the hunters by "beaters," that is, hunt servants. This is the theme of the film _The Shooting Party_, in which an over-ambitious player recklessly shoots and kills one of the hunt-servants. The other form of upper-class shooting was Safari or Trophy-hunting, going to Africa or Asia to shoot one of the recognized big-game animals: Lions, Tigers, Bears, Elephants, Rhinoceroses, or Buffalo. This last had its own form of corruption. There were Great White Hunters, professionals of the type of the Swedish Baron Bror Blixen, or his English rival Denys Finch-Hatton, rivals both in hunting and in love, who would do whatever they needed to do, in a remote corner of the world, to ensure that their wealthy clients went home with the requisite numbers and types of trophy heads. Finch-Hatton was eventually killed in a crash of the airplane he used to seek out game animals. Blixen is reported to have taken to riding down animals in an automobile.

The pattern for Olympic riding and shooting was that they were edited down to forms which did not require very large sums of money, which did not link up with organized crime, or involve obviously irresponsible behavior. These  approved tendencies converged in the Modern Pentathlon (1912), which was calculated to appeal to young army officers, of the type of George S. Patton. The contestant had to ride a horse, to shoot, to fence, to swim, and to run.

However, the compromise did not extend to the automobile. Circa 1900, automobile racing, in the grand manner, tended to mean Count X, and his chauffeur, driving Count X's 6-seater German automobile from Paris to Madrid, in competition with Baron Z, and his 6-seater French automobile and chauffeur. The chauffeur was also the mechanic, and did the ongoing work required to keep the machine going
This kind of racing was affectionately satirized in the 1969 movie _The film Those Daring Young Men in Their Jaunty Jalopies_.  After a few bad accidents, automobile racing shifted to circular tracks, only a few miles long, which could be closed off. As motorcycles became available, within the economic reach of the working classes, people started racing those, but it tended to be done in fairgrounds, and soon, motorcycle gangs emerged. By the 1930's there was the phenomena of the terrorist motorcycle gang, eg. the French pro-Nazi Croix de Feu ("Cross of Fire"). The recent events in Charlottesville are a return of this pattern.

The next step up from driving automobiles was flying airplanes. Here's a curious story: one of  the Battle of Britain aces in 1940 was a man named Douglas Bader, a double leg amputee. About 1930, he had crashed an airplane, and lost his legs. In the 1930's, the RAF was small and club-able, and no one wanted to tell Bader he was done for. By the time they got up the nerve, he had learned to walk on artificial legs, and to drive again, and to fly again. A legless man has certain advantages in flying-- the blood can't flow down into legs which aren't there, so he is less likely to black out in high-gee turns. Bader eventually got shot down over France, and his artificial legs got broken in a parachute landing. The Luftwaffe mechanics had a go at repairing the artificial legs, while they sent off a message via Switzerland requesting  delivery of Bader's spare pair. In due course, the RAF delivered the legs, dropping them by parachute during a bombing raid. However, by that time, Bader had escaped (temporarily) on the Luftwaffe-repaired pair. In another event of the battle, Peter Townsend, who would eventually make Group Captain, and become Princess Margaret's boyfriend, shot down a  German pilot. So he went to visit the German pilot in hospital, bearing a gift of cigarettes. That was the way noble knights were supposed to behave to each other. Cigarettes were not disapproved of at that date-- they were included in soldier's rations at the rate of about five cigarettes per meal. To put it in modern terms, think of the gift  as a box containing about a hundred dollars worth of assorted nuts, dried fruit, etc. This was the gift of politeness. The gift of intimacy would have been a bottle of whiskey, because a man given a bottle of whiskey is likely to become drunk, and start singing improper songs at the top of his lungs, to the great annoyance of the chief nurse.

Now, the Olympics is faced with a new technology, Computers and Electronics. The Olympics must edit this technology, rather than blindly rejecting it, or uncritically accepting it. They might say that they will accept Tetris, but they will not accept Grand Theft Auto.



HNN Post, Elizabeth Reis, Woman, Man, Neither? The Predicament of a World-Class Runner

09/21/2009 04:29 AM

http://hnn.us/articles/117140.html

Man, Machine, Neither.

This case reminds me of the other controversial South African runner, Oscar Pistorius. Mr. Pistorius is a childhood double  amputee (below the knees), and grew up on artificial legs. He runs, and he has special running legs, the way other people have special running  shoes. His times, thus equipped, are approximately in the Olympic Gold Medal range.  On the other hand, if he were considered as a kind of  bicyclist, his performance would be broadly in the  local amateur club range. That is, he is not at the Tour De France level (2200 miles in 21 days at about 35  mph). There is ongoing dispute about  how to  classify him.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.03/blade.html


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Re: Sport Ban-- In Russia

Well, it seems the FIFA cup final between France and Croatia was played in Moscow, in Russia, and the protest was a specific response to the crimes of the Putin regime. The whole point was to embarrass the government before foreigners. The ban on attending any sports event presumably applies to anything within reach of the Russian police. The issue is of course that FIFA is collaborating with the Putin regime, and doesn't want that fact publicized.  FIFA is willing to do a dictatorship's dirty work, for favored received.

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