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Daniel Burnstein

Seattle Bag Law Not a Threat to Freedom



http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/53317.html



HNN, Aug 15, 2008

Andrew D. Todd

 a_d_todd@rowboats-sd-ca.com 

http://rowboats-sd-ca.com/




(My Responses)

(08/31/2008 06:37 PM)

The Green Mistake About  Plastic Bags Is the Same as the  Progressive Mistake About  Spitting.

Daniel Burnstein seems to have a rather naive understanding of spitting. Spitting, even spitting on someone, has very little to do with the spread of epidemic disease. Of course, spitting on someone has always been an assault at law, and the point of dispute in the late nineteenth century or early twentieth century  would have been the act of  spitting on the floor. Such spitting does not form an aerosol with any efficiency. Normal breathing, however, does form an aerosol, which lends itself to being easily inhaled. The main factor driving tuberculosis in the  age of Jacob Riis was the number of people  living five and ten to a room. Nowadays, Tuberculosis is mostly found when men are housed in barracks conditions, typically in prisons. Airliners,  likewise, are a problem, because  of the degree of overcrowding, and the tendency of the  airplane's pressurization system to dehydrate and  recirculate air. Spitting is primarily about  cultural defiance, a visual gesture of contempt,  worth a fight  with  broken bottles in all the more authentic workingman's taverns. The whole point of spitting  in a streetcar  was to force a fine gentleman to back down from a fight, and eventually to make the streetcar a "gentleman-free zone."  One can find other comparable forms of regulation from that date, designed to  restrict the  outspokenness of the underclass. One sometimes encounters ordinances such as the French one that required prostitutes to ply their trade in side streets, and not to solicit men in the presence of the mens' wives and children.  Obviously, the  likelihood of making a sale under those circumstances must  have been  minimal, but Judy O'Grady got a certain pardonable pleasure out of embarrassing the Colonel's Lady. By contrast, no one gets particularly upset about a dog saluting a fire hydrant, because a dog's place in the social order is firmly fixed. The littler the dog, the broader the liberties it is allowed, and there are some really spoiled-rotten poodles, Yorkshire Terriers, etc.

Burnstein's understanding of the issues involving  plastic bags is equally limited. The Seattle bag law reminds me of the "bottle bills" of about thirty years ago, combinations of good intentions and naivety. The five-cent deposit on a soda bottle did not cause the man in the street to become a fanatical recycler. He simply treated it as a tax, and went on his way. The deposit did,  however, make it worthwhile for bums to tip over public trash cans on the public sidewalk in order to "prospect" for bottles and cans. The soft drink bottlers continued to phase out glass bottles, which were well adapted to direct recycling, in favor of plastic bottles, which were not.  In many  public venues such as stadiums, glass bottles are not even permitted, on  account of the well  justified fear that they might be  used as weapons. The bag law is likely to be similarly  inconsequential. At a very rough average, a bag of groceries costs ten or twenty dollars. A charge of twenty cents for a bag will simply be ignored, treated as a tax. I presume that under the Seattle  law,  there will be no refunds for used plastic bags, so at  least the bums will  not  be invading peoples' back yards in order to tip over their garbage cans. What's more, it is all quite pointless. 

The average American uses about three tons of coal per year, practically all in the form of electricity,  about six hundred gallons of gasoline-- nearly two tons, and a considerable quantity of natural gas and/or fuel  oil, perhaps a couple of tons, depending on region, for heating, perhaps seven or eight tons in all. This  dwarfs the consumption of every other raw material. On this scale, a couple of hundred pounds or less of paper and plastic per capita, including not just plastic bags but assorted food wrappings as well,  is not all that significant. Furthermore,  plastic and paper for packaging  materials are quite sensibly made from residues or byproducts. An oil refinery is run to produce the maximum possible fraction of gasoline. Cheap plastic is typically made from the low-grade hydrocarbon gases which unavoidably develop during the refining process. It is very much the same principle as making glue from slaughterhouse offal, not from sirloin steaks. If these gases were not made into plastic, they would most likely be used as boiler fuel. Similarly, the forest products industry's major high value product is dimension lumber, such as two-by-fours. Paper is made from the  incidental scrap and sawdust. When packaging  trash is burned to make steam and then electricity, it is simply reverting to its  original destiny. 

In the real world, Americans are not eco-saints. If they go to the grocery store more frequently, they will do so in automobiles, and use correspondingly more gasoline. Eco-freaks make a sharp distinction between the things  they handle and touch, and the things they do not handle and touch, as if the latter were somehow not there. Gasoline and electricity are out of sight, and out of  mind.  The "fussbudget  green" mentality which obsesses about personal purity, and therefore becomes obsessed with packaging materials is really a kind of environmental Madonna-whore complex. The fussbudgets are essentially trying to exploit public confusion to legislate their own religious beliefs. Just as an Orthodox Jew believes that it is sinful to eat a cheeseburger (though not to eat beef and cheese at separate meals), the Eco-freaks believe that it is sinful to eat singly. This is of course an old idea, going back to St. Thomas More's Utopia, the  idea that it is wrong to eat, save in an act of communion. Its modern embodiment is the so-called "Slow Food" movement. I do not  propose to discuss whether this religious belief is right or wrong,  but merely to observe that the vast majority of the population do not adhere to it. The proponents of  this idea are trying to bury it under a pretext of energy. This kind of licensed fussbudgeting does substantial damage. It injures the credibility of people who are pushing for important and sensible measures, such as greater energy efficiency.

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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/372566_bags29.html
July 28, 2008 11:59 p.m. PT, City OKs 20-cent fee on plastic, paper bags. Council also outlaws foam food and drink containers, By Kathy Mulady, P-I Reporter

http://www.seattlecrimeblog.com/tags/bag_tax/

http://seattlebagtax.org/

http://seattlebagtax.org/RuckerReport.pdf

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(09/01/2008 10:58 AM)

Plastic Recycling is a Great Charade.

The Oregon Bottle Bill went through in 1971. When I lived there, in  the late 1980's, bums were still  tipping over trash cans. The bill prescribed a fixed rate, of two cents for a standard refillable container or five cents for other types, a rate which has of course been largely repudiated by inflation. The useful virtue of inflation is that it functions as a kind of statute of limitations on financial obligations, which have to be periodically renegotiated, or  else they practically cease to exist. However, long after the bottle bill had ceased to motivate consumers, it was still motivating  bums. It is difficult to understand the  mindset of someone who will spend a couple of hours collecting, say, a hundred bottles, to get the price of a bottle of  "Mad Dog" (Mogen-David MD 20-20).

http://www.bottlebill.org/legislation/usa/oregon.htm

What did happen was that people began guarding trash cans, dumpsters, etc., with barbed wire, and even the odd junkyard dog. I'm going to tell  you a little story which admittedly happened in a non-bottle-bill state, but  which indicates the ultimate folly of trash-guarding. When I lived in Philadelphia in the early 1990's, my neighbor  kept a junkyard dog to go with his freelance junkyard. The first one was  killed by a University of Pennsylvania  police officer in ambiguous circumstances (it may or may not have been attacking a little old lady). Correction, the dog, a Doberman, was shot by the police officer, retreated into the debris of the junkyard while collapsing, and  was eventually dragged out by a city dogcatcher armed with a long pole with a noose at the  end. The dogcatcher finished  the beast off  by garroting it with the noose. As there had been a  discharge of  firearms by a peace officer, we had the City of Philadelphia police in, interviewing witnesses and all. At any rate, the neighbor soon got a new junkyard dog. Process servers left their bills on my doorstep because they didn't dare to approach the neighbor's.

Parenthetically, in the years after the bottle bills went through, the soda bottlers shifted to selling soda in big plastic one-liter or two-liter bottles, so that anyone who wanted to save a bit of money had obvious incentives to buy the bigger bottle, and the occasions of throwing  it  away were correspondingly less frequent. Most states do not have  bottle bills, and there is not exactly an epidemic of throwing bottles out of car windows.

You are correct that grocery stores accept bottles back in those states which have bottle bills. They pay you for the bottle, crush it-- and then they throw the crushed bottles in the trash, and pay someone to haul them away. It is simply a tax on doing business. The dirty little secret about post-consumer plastics recycling is that it usually doesn't work. A post consumer plastic container such as a soda bottle will commonly be made of two different kinds of plastics, will very often contain paper, ink, food residues, etc. It is not suitable for making new bottles of the same type, because all these different  materials are comminated. A basic principle of recycling is that materials are almost always recycled downwards. The exception is factory scrap, typically sheets of plastic from which objects have been cut out.  All the cut-out sheets in the debris bin of one cutting machine are of the same type of plastic, and they can often conveniently be used to make new plastic sheets of the same type, which come back  to the cutting machine.  The claimed recycling figures on various plastic objects are generally based on factory scrap, not on post-consumer plastic. The uses of post-consumer plastic are fairly limited, things like plastic siding for houses. Beyond that limited market, the highest and best use of post-consumer plastic is for fuel. 

Recycling of tin cans is a bit more attractive, because the steelmaking process involves melting them at more than two thousand degrees, and at that temperature, all carbon-based chemicals simply burn off. Steel scrap can be separated from raw garbage by giant magnets, so there is no justification for deposit fees on tin cans. Even so, recycled steel contains unpredictable combinations of alloying metals, and therefore is used for structural steel, not for the higher grades of sheet steel used in automaking.
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(09/03/2008 08:42 AM)

Possible Interesting Source on Disease in the  Gilded Age.

Amusing thought: I was weeding out the old book catalogs and similar junk mail which were threatening to drive me out of house and home, when I ran across this:

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http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/10509.php

Natalia Molina, Fit to Be Citizens? Public Health and Race in Los Angeles, 1879-1939

"Natalia Molina illustrates the many ways local health officials used complexly constructed concerns about public health to demean, diminish, discipline, and ultimately define racial groups. She shows how the racialization of Mexican Americans was not simply a matter of legal exclusion or labor exploitation, but rather that scientific discourses and public health practices played a key role in assigning negative racial characteristics to the group."
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I have  not read this book, and cannot speak to its qualities,  but it does look rather interesting,  yes? This sort of thing is what social historians are supposed to do in the aftermath of  Eugene Genovese.



HNN Post, Carl Zimring, The Economic Crisis is an Environmental Crisis: Trash Has Crashed


02/13/2009 02:10 AM

http://hnn.us/articles/59711.html
http://hnn.us/board.php?id=59711

Curbside Recycling is a Dead End.

Large numbers of newspapers are on the verge of  ceasing to distribute paper editions, if they do not cease publication altogether. The  internet broke down a lot of  local monopolies which were keeping the local newspapers precariously afloat, eg. local publication of national news from the wire services, grocery and discount store advertising, classified advertising, television schedules, etc. A consensus  is emerging to the effect that if local newspapers are to survive, they are going to  have to get their costs down to very low levels.  This tends to include greater use of websites, and reduction in both  the size and frequency of paper distribution. There is no point in bombarding the prospective customer, the advertising audience, with so  much paper that it almost immediately becomes trash. At this level, the major implication of the economic downturn has been to force advertisers to take a hard look at what their advertising money buys, and what it does not, and to act accordingly. The volume of old newspapers is likely to drop to a tenth or so of former levels. Newspaper recycling was one of the visible successes of domestic recycling. Newspapers, not being contaminated with food residues, could simply be accumulated, and recycled in quantity. As I will develop below, newsprint is about the only nonmetallic curbside recyclable which sells for a premium over its fuel price.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081121/0306092914.shtml
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090116/0341223429.shtml
http://www.journalismprofessor.com/2007/05/readers-to-rescue.html
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090204/0155043639.shtml


Food packaging is a different case. In  the 1920's and 1930's, there were, no doubt,  men who went around to the back door and  bought old kitchen grease, bones, etc., the  kind of stuff which now goes down the disposal. However, compared to the 1930's, there is very little home-processing of food. By the  time food is sold to the consumer, the  non-edible portions have generally been cut away. This is an inevitable consequence of most women being in the workforce. Food packaging is made as ephemeral as it can be, and still do its job. We had a similar discussion several months ago, dealing with soft-drinks and "bottle bills." My comments about soft-drink bottles apply to food packaging in general. It is mere circumstance that the soft-drink makers reached this level of sophisticated packaging first. 

http://hnn.us/roundup/comments/53317.html#comment

In the first place, the dominant form of food packaging is freezing or refrigeration. Glass is obviously unsuitable for packaging frozen foods, and metal is being driven out from niches such as TV dinner trays because it is not microwave-safe. Most refrigerated foods come in simple transparent plastic wrappers which allows the buyer to visually inspect the condition of the food. Common "refrigerate after opening" condiments such as mustard, catsup, and salad dressing  now come in plastic bottles.Certain  "status" condiments, which do not differ appreciably in acidity and sugar content, are still in glass bottles, eg. seafood cocktail sauce.

As a packaging  material, glass has the obvious disadvantage of being  breakable, and is useful only where this is outweighed by its resistance to solvents, or its amenability to being washed (sterilized) at high temperature. Practically speaking, the necessary use of glass  packaging seems largely confined to alcoholic beverages, and vinegar (and of course, certain types of flavored vinegar, such as Worcestershire or Tabasco sauce, which one does not have to refrigerate after  opening). Even pickles now come in individual plastic pouches which do not require refrigeration. Of course, it is not impossible that at some point, special coatings might be developed, eg. a plastic wine bottle which has an inner layer of glass a thousandth  of an inch thick, this  layer being  highly flexible and bonded to the plastic.

The functional layer of a tin can, the lining, is increasingly likely to be plastic instead of tin. The metal has been reduced in function to a mere structural support, and for that purpose, steel is overkill. Where the properties of metal are required for a lining, a thin layer of aluminum, say a thousandth or a ten-thousandth of an inch thick, can be applied to a plastic or paper substrate. Irradiation of sealed plastic packages has certain advantages over traditional canning methods, ie. it makes it possible to pasteurize foods without overcooking them to anything like the same extent as is required with metal or glass containers. Irradiation is of course not very satisfactory for salad vegetables or fruit, where there is no real substitute for freshness. However, it does work fairly well for meat dishes. As mentioned,  tin cans are not compatible with microwave ovens. Prepared meat dishes tend increasingly to come in plastic dishes with sealed plastic covers, enclosed in cardboard wrappers.

This tends to leave only a relatively limited range of foodstuffs for which the tin can, or the glass bottle or jar, is still the packaging method of choice. The domestic kitchen waste stream will tend to consist more and more exclusively of soiled paper and plastic, often combined in single packages, eg. a  paper milk carton with a plastic cap and a plastic lining. The highest and best use of that sort of stuff is as feedstock for a synfuel plant. It is possible, without undue difficulty, to use magnets and a flotation-separation process  to recover glass and metals from a synfuel plant's input stream. The effect will be to render conventional curbside domestic recycling even more of a farce. The whole point of curbside recycling was never to recover  useful materials, but  to force the public to participate in an ecological morality play.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_irradiation
http://www.extension.iastate.edu/foodsafety/irradiation/
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/aug03/6763


Just  to keep matters in perspective, the wholesale delivered price of coal, based on the  trainload  of, say, 10-20,000 tons is something like $30/ton, and coal  in small quantities of a few tons goes for as much as a couple of hundred dollars per  ton (a typical customer being a tourist railroad with an antique steam locomotive). Paper has about half the heat value of coal, more if it has a wax or plastic coating, so its cash fuel value would be  at least $15/ton. Oil is presently at about $40/bbl, which would work out to about $300/ton. Plastics are comparatively easy to recycle  into oil. One can  simply combine them with small quantities of hydrogen at a sufficiently  high temperature and pressure, and that will cause the long  chain molecules of plastic to break down into the short chain molecules characteristic of liquid hydrocarbons, eg. diesel oil. As for paper, when it is simply left in the waste stream, it is carried to a landfill, an incinerator  or synfuel plant in the normal way. This does not occasion additional trucking costs because everything goes in one big efficient truck. Of course, landfills will eventually be mined, so putting something in a landfill does not amount to throwing it away. You can build a multistage  synfuel refinery. In successive stages, more  hydrogen is added, and at each stage, the more hydrogen-rich components of the trash become liquid,  and separate  out.  If you separate out paper or  plastic from trash, you diminish the total heat value of  the  raw trash, which requires the  burning or reduction of more coal. So, effectively, for paper recycling to be profitable, recycled paper has to command a price of at least  $15/ton, and recycled plastic has to command a price of $300/ton.

There are large numbers of recycled material prices which do  not achieve this criterion. Old magazines command very low  prices, on the order of three dollars per ton, because of the clay coating used to achieve acceptable image quality for photographs. Likewise, waxed cardboard commands a very low price, on the order of five dollars per ton. At  this level recycling really means paying to possess the external appearance of  recycling.

http://www.scrapindex.com/paper/usa/loose_paper/index.html
http://www.scrapindex.com/index.html
http://www.scrapindex.com/municipal/usa/curbside/index.html

It is worth reading John  Barth's _The  Floating  Opera House_. Barth is one of the great Southern practitioners of broad farce, in the tradition of Augustus Baldwin Longstreet. In _The Floating Opera House_, Barth's lawyer-hero  litigates the will of a millionaire who died insane. It emerges that for years the millionaire has caused his bodily  wastes to be packed up in a series of glass jars, which are neatly labeled and stored in  the basement of his mansion. In the terms of  the man's  will, the heirs are required  to reverentially preserve these jars, and their contents, on  pain of disinheritance.  The lawyer is therefore obliged to inquire what  has become of these  jars... Once one   has  read _The Floating Opera House_, one has an insight into the  mentality of the more extreme kinds of Green activists.





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