HNN post, re: Mark A. LeVine, From Live Aid
to Live 8: Do They Know It's not Christmas Anymore?
(My Responses)
HNN post, re: Jonathan Dresner, Attempting Analogy: Japanese
Manchuria and Occupied Iraq
06/03/2004 11:16 AM
http://hnn.us/articles/5247.html
The Similarity is Flawed Industrial Policies Driving Flawed
Foreign Policies
The problem about economic motivations is that political leaders
are so often economically incompetent. A truly progressive
technology tends to be comparatively disengaged from government.
One does not call a lawyer in, and pay him a fee, to solve a
problem which one can fix with a design change. Industries become
politically engaged only when they are beginning to run out of
choices. This means that a politician who essentially "takes
counsel of his bribes" is likely to be proceeding on faulty
industrial intelligence.
Japan did have options at a point. Certainly, once it was in
Manchuria, Japan had abundant gross resources. At a certain level,
this would have been a good time to cease advancing and give the
world time to forget its annoyance. Japan could probably have
gotten away with Manchuria, if it had not tried to raise the
stakes by pushing down into China proper and Southeast Asia. The
push into Southeast Asia rested on essentially two materials-- oil
and rubber, neither of which was required in huge quantities
(unlike coal, for example). In the course of the ensuring World
War, one or other of the combatants were forced to synthesize both
from more abundant materials. See Arthur Squires, cited
below, for a discussion of the American synthetic rubber program.
Japan built the two biggest and most advanced
battleships in the world, the Yamato and Mushashi. The same skill
and steel could equally well have gone into economic autarchy.
Postwar Japan has taken a leaf from the Dutch and begun to
expand into the sea. The Japanese "metabolic school" architect
Kenzo Tange's unbuilt _Tokyo Bay Project_ (1960) may be
considered as a kind of "counsel of perfection in this matter,
comparable to the Zuider Zee (see Banhan, cited below, for
details). This is, again, something that could have been done
earlier.
The American oil industry has long since ceased to be
technologically progressive. Its most advanced oil exploration
techniques are essentially cribbed from medical electronics
practice. Its refineries are rusting behemoths with persistent
environmental problems, which sometimes explode for reasons
amounting to gross negligence. The proposal to drill in the Arctic
National Wildlife Reserve, is, in engineering terms, a kind of
declaration of intellectual bankruptcy. It is expensive, it will
take time, and it will not provide a long-term solution.
Thoughtful engineering opinion runs to increasing the efficiency
of automobiles as an immediate measure. The Japanese automakers
are leading the way, just as they did in the last oil crisis,
because they place the least reliance on being able to pull
political strings in Washington. It is entirely feasible, through
technological means, to go beyond oil, and consequently, beyond
middle-east politics as they are presently understood. The
automobile is long overdue for fundamental rethinking, on a whole
series of grounds, ranging from highway fatalities to traffic
congestion, to emissions, to oil imports, to flood control
and soil conservation (pavement run-off). In fact, detailed and
practical proposals were worked out in the 1960's (see
Tomorrow's Transportation... and Metrotran-2000, cited
below). Instead, we merely project our internal problems onto the
Arabs.
What impresses me about the present situation is the sheer extent
to which government policy is driven by the technologically
obsolete, not just with respect to oil and automobiles, but with
respect to a whole range of technological issues, most notably
copyrights and patents. Similarly, I am concerned by the the
extent to which the most technologically progressive elements are
writing political manifestos along the lines of "when in the
course of human events..." The computer techies are becoming
increasingly interested in the Boston Tea Party as a
precedent. That is dangerous. The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan
precipitated a revolution in Russia, growing out of tensions which
already existed in Soviet society. Do not exclude the possibility
that it could happen here.
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Tomorrow's Transportation: New Systems for the Urban
Future, U. S. Department of Housing
and Urban Development, Office of
Metropolitan Development, Urban Transportation
Administration, Washington D.C., 1968 (Library
of Congress catalog number 68-61300)
Metrotran-2000: A Study of Future
Concepts in Metropolitan Transportation
for the Year 2000,
Cornell Aeronautical Laboratories, Inc., by:
Robert A. Wolf, Transportation Research Department, CAL No.
150, October 1967
Amey Stone and Carol Vinzant, Lean, Green Tips for Energy Savings
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jun2004/nf2004061_9370_db016.htm
Arthur M Squires, _The Tender Ship: Governmental Management
of Technological Change_, Boston : Birkhäuser, 1986, ISBN:
081763312X
Reyner Banham, _Megastructure, Urban Futures of the Recent Past_,
Harper and Row, New York, 1976
HNN posts, re: Mark A. LeVine, From Live Aid to Live 8: Do They
Know It's not Christmas Anymore?
RE:
http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/12521.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20050714020929/http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/12521.html
(06/23/2005 09:33 AM)
Benefits of Empire Debatable
The new world silver in the sixteenth century does not seem to
have had a particularly constructive effect on Europe. It was not
really a material in the ordinary sense of the word. I grant that
the silver produced a keynsian stimulation, but it did so in a
particularly destructive way. The Hapsburgs used it to finance
the counter-reformation, which resulted in Germany being
more or less put to the sword. The obvious big winner of the wars
of religion was England, very much a third-rate country
in 1500, with about a tenth of the population of France.
England was very much a johnny-come-lately to the business
of empire, but what it did do was to take in refugees. All kinds
of industries popped up in this fashion. By 1700, England's empire
consisted of a swath of North America, and a bunch of islands and
offshore trading posts in the rest of the world.
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I am appending a precis of a relevant book.
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Geoffrey Parker, The Army of Flanders and
the Spanish Road, 1567-1659 (Cambridge Studies in
Early Modern History), Cambridge University Press,
Cambridge, 1972,
Parker treats the eighty-years-war between Spain and the
Netherlands in terms of what he calls
'logistics,' which is half lines of communication and
half finance.
Spain was only able to conduct operations in
the Netherlands and northern France because it could
find and control a land or sea route.
During the 16th century, the
main artery of communication was the 'Spanish
Road': Genoa (ally), Savoy (ally), Franche Comte
(Hapsburg), Lorraine (ally), Netherlands.
An eastern branch went from Lorraine via Alsace (Hapsburg) either
to the emperor's German lands
or via Switzerland to Italy.
Significant no-go areas were France, the Palatinate, and the more
militant cantons of Switzerland, eg. Geneva.
As France recovered from its civil wars, it
resumed a policy of expansion. In 1601 it relieved Savoy of
some of the headwaters of the Rhone, and the Spanish Road was
pinched between France and Geneva. Savoy soon
shifted into French alliance. With
the outbreak of the Thirty Years War, the Hapsburgs
improved their position by the conquest of the Palatinate.
They developed a new road, from Milan
(Hapsburg) to the Valtelline (which
they occupied) to the Tyrol (Hapsburg). But
in the 1630's France occupied Alsace and
Lorraine, and brought Switzerland and Venice into
alliance. The Spaniards now moved their troops
and funds along the English coast (being for the time
being at peace with England). But even this became
impossible under the Commonwealth, with its inclination to
champion English colonial interests.
The other half of the
'logistics' problem was financial:
obtaining the money to pay the troops.The Hapsburg
empire was overextended, and there was never enough
money to do everything that needed doing.
So it was rarely possible to
exploit victories. The unpaid troops would mutiny,
their version of a strike. They would take over
a town, commence raiding from it, and demand their
back pay. The crown could only pay them off, and hope the idea
would not spread too rapidly to the other troops.
The king was continually borrowing, but he was
also becoming unable to meet his obligations. So
he was obliged to default (which in many cases
actually ended up meaning renegotiating the terms of
repayment). In the long run, this merely impaired his
ability to borrow. About 1580, the silver production from the new
world increased dramatically, but that too
was progressively anticipated and alienated to
creditors. Finally, catastrophe of catastrophes,
in 1629, the dutch 'sea beggars'
captured the treasure fleet that was supposed to be used to
pay the creditors.
In response to these difficulties, Spain had been
compelled to develop what was by now the
most advanced modern logistics operation
in Europe. The crown supplied
the soldier with everything he needed,
arms, food, clothing, etc. and stopped it against his pay,
whenever that should materialize. This kept the mutiny rate
down to a manageable level.
Yet it was not good enough. Spain was simply too
overextended, trying to hold too many territories, too far
from home. Parker is arguing along the same
lines as Garrett Mattingly (The Spanish Armada), about the
finiteness of the Spanish military miracle.
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Responding to the observation that the import of silver from the new
word had surely had n ipact, I replied (06/23/2005 05:06 PM) that:
Well, the question is
not whether there was an impact. The question is whether the
impact was positive or negative. The most obvious and
immediately provable impact of the Spanish silver was that a large
swath of Europe was, as I said, put to the sword. If you
want to get a feel for what that worked out to in practice,
read Grimmelshausen (Adventures of a Simpleton) or look at
Callot's etchings. It became foolish to build things like
windmills because the soldiers would only torch them when they
passed through. Agricultural productivity suffered. Cropland went
out of production because the soldiers had looted the seed-corn.
The productivity of medieval/ early modern agriculture was
not very high at the best of times, and farmers needed to
set aside a third or a quarter of their grain crop for seed in any
case. It didn't take very much looting at harvest time to do
damage that might require fifty years to recover from. It is
estimated that the population of Germany dropped by
something like a third during the thirty years war, between 1618
and 1648, making it comparable to the Black Death. Of course,
there were fresh outbreaks of that too, in the disturbed
post-battlefield conditions.
Practically none of the things of apparent value imported back to
Europe from the global south before 1700 had any real use-value.
The things imported were either money, or things which functioned
like money, as status symbols. The net result of these imports
was inflation, and in the long term, Europe was
none the richer for them, any more than Weimar Germany was
the richer for printing unlimited numbers of Reichsmarks.
The one thing which was of value was cultivars and
livestock. Before 1500, the world was divided into about
five ecological zones by seas, mountains, and deserts. There
was a general exchange of token quantities of things like
potatoes, and maize corn, and peanuts, and pigs, and
turkeys, which the recipients bred up to usable numbers.
Paradoxically, these agricultural products were the ones
which the Europeans could have had by asking nicely in any case.
I think it would be fair to say that silver was a kind of economic
narcotic, consistently destructive to all parties involved.
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To the further reply that silver was needed to buy tea from the
Chinese, I agreed (06/24/2005 11:04 AM), while disputing the
relevelence:
That is it-- the
Chinese were exporting tea in exchange for silver. If I recall
rightly, Pepys said (in the 1660's or 1670's): "I did
send for a dish of Tay, a China drink which I never had
before." At the time, things like tea and tobacco commanded
a fancy price precisely because they were not articles of
mass consumption. They were lucrative in much the same sense
as cannabis. The fancy price made it economic to ship the
things in primitive ships for fifteen thousand miles or so,
a round-trip voyage taking a couple of years. The ships
which traded with the far east were immensely heavily armed. Bjorn
Landstrom (The Ship: An Illustrated History, 1961, p. 186) refers
to an East Indiaman of 1725 with 54 guns. It might have displaced
a thousand tons, and had a crew of five hundred men. In
modern terms, that would have been something like a
pocket battleship. Since the ship had to run the gauntlet of
Southeast Asia in its way home, such armament was necessary.
Tobacco production rapidly took root in England, despite the
Virginia Company's legal monopoly, on much the same basis
as moonshining. Similarly, silk originally came from China,
but the secret got out fast enough, and the caterpillars were soon
chomping away on mulberry leaves in Italy. Trade boiled down
to a residue of products which could not be grown in a
European climate. There were reasonable local substitutes-- for
example, the mulled ale which Sir Toby Belch and Sir Andrew
Aguecheek are dipping into in Twelth Night. Similarly,
you can make tea from things like dandelions, nettles, etc.
However, if everyone has a status symbol, it is no longer
a status symbol. Status symbols are thus
subject to inflation, in much the same way as money.
That is what runs through Europe's interaction with the
global south. The proceeds were in the last analysis things of
essentially transitory value.
European industry did not rely very greatly on imports from the
global south until the nineteenth century, when
the steamship radically reduced the cost of ocean shipping. The
near exception was cotton in the eighteenth century, and as
the Lancashire cotton industry grew, cotton was
planted in the West Indies, and later in America, a
mere three or four thousand miles from the factory. However, the
key "manufactures of superiority," such as iron and steel, or
shipbuilding, were built out of European materials. The
early machine-making towns, such as Augsburg, were on top of
mining districts.
The global south did not have very much of a monopoly of climates.
It was usually possible to bridge the difference with a
greenhouse, except where that would have been
self-defeating. Likewise, the global south did not have
a monopoly of mineral resources. As against that, the
global south was distant, and expensive to reach, and found its
natural niche as a supplier of goods whose value consisted
primarily in their scarcity.
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One commentator (Frederick Thomas), and here I am going by memory,
as his post was not archived, referred to the need for certain rare
metals, rare earths, not specifically state, but, by
context, Tantalum. To which I replied (06/24/2005 06:02
PM)
RE: Re: A good
statement of an old and fatally flawed argument.
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Well, I think he's referring to tantalum, used in
electrolytic capacitors. I suppose that at this stage in the
proceedings, it probably goes into power supplies. I don't suppose
there's much need for LC oscilator circuits anymore. People
use tiny surface-mounted capacitors to damp digital signal lines
between chips, but I doubt those amount to very much.
http://www.worldwatch.org/live/discussion/81/
https://web.archive.org/web/20050714020929/http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/12521.html
As you will see from this table (I cited one for 2003) the vast
majority comes from Australia. Parenthetically, I know there's
work being done on aluminium electrolytic capacitors, which are
obviously more economical for power-related uses.
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